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Old Jun 08, 2012, 1:44pm   #1
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kann mir mal jemand helfen das beste play (theoretisch) zu berechnen
hab dass nie so wirklich gemacht sondern nur so übern daumen gepeilt

das ist die hand

€3/€6 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG gugli1000 (€356.50) 59bb
UTG+1 ita.dreD (€600) 100bb
CO IlTurnista (€1,314.04) 219bb
BTN CICCITO08 (€971.08) 162bb
SB mammatomania (€431.74) 72bb
BB poochie (€600) 100bb

Pre-Flop: (€9, 6 players) poochie is BB
2 folds, IlTurnista raises to €18, 1 fold, mammatomania calls €15, poochie calls €12

Flop: (€54, 3 players)
mammatomania checks, poochie checks, IlTurnista bets €31.63, mammatomania folds, poochie calls €31.63

Turn: (€117.26, 2 players)
poochie checks, IlTurnista bets €72, poochie calls €72

River: (€261.26, 2 players)
poochie checks, IlTurnista bets €180, Hero


wie berechne ich mein ev gegen AT, 9T, KT, 22, QQ, JJ, KK, wenn ich pushe, folde, calle. möchte vill noch ein paar kleine abweichungen einberechnen (z.b. dass er QT haben könnte, oder 89 als bluff hat sowas....)
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 1:06pm   #2
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Das beste play ist imo squeeze preflop.

Wenn Du was rechnen willst, dann musst Du halt seine ranges definieren, mit denen er
- Am river IP die 3te barrel spielt
- Am river bet/callt
- Am river bet/foldet

Dann bestimmst Du deine equity gegen diese ranges sowie deine FEQ für nen river-shove.

Wenn Du das gemacht hast, dann kannst Du den EV für jede einzelne Option (fold, call, shove) ausrechnen.

Mit etwas Aufwand kannst Du das ganze als Excel Tabelle machen und seine ranges als Variablen mit denen Du rumspielen kannst. Siehst dann halt z.B. unter welchen Bedingungen shove > call ist z.B. Ist schon nicht ganz einfach, aber in einer halben Stunde sollte man das hinbekommen.
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Old Jun 24, 2012, 6:38pm   #3
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verstehe nicht was du meinst mit rechnen?

du kriegst 180:440, brauchst also 29% wins um zu callen. wenn er zb AT T9 for value hat, und die immer genau so spielt, sind das 32 combos die dich besiegen. Brauchst du etwa 14 bluff combos um nen call zu haben.

Fuer nen jam.. naja das sieht man schon dass das ne scheiss idee ist.
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verstehe nicht was du meinst mit rechnen?

du kriegst 180:440, brauchst also 29% wins um zu callen. wenn er zb AT T9 for value hat, und die immer genau so spielt, sind das 32 combos die dich besiegen. Brauchst du etwa 14 bluff combos um nen call zu haben.

Fuer nen jam.. naja das sieht man schon dass das ne scheiss idee ist.
Zum ersten mal überhaupt nen Fehler in einem von Bubbleboys posts gefunden.

Am river kommt ne 9, d.h. es gibt nur 12 T9 combos und damit nur 28 combos, die uns besiegen.
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