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Old Nov 27, 2012, 2:24pm   #1
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Stacks:
UTG ($64.63) 129bb
UTG+1 ($63.06) 126bb
CO ($47.47) 95bb
BTN ($71.59) 143bb
SB ($62.78) 126bb
spud (BB) ($61.92) 124bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) spud is BB
3 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB raises to $2.50, spud calls $2, BTN folds

Flop: ($5.50, 2 players)
SB bets $3.75, spud calls $3.75

Turn: ($13, 2 players)
SB checks, spud bets $6.50, SB calls $6.50

River: ($26, 2 players)
SB checks, spud checks


SB: TAG 23/18, nur 20% steal ausm SB

turn denke ich c/f er viel und es macht keinen unterschied ob ich 1/2 pot oder 10$ bette??

mehr blank am river geht wohl kaum, also give up?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 3:41pm   #2
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Turn und river play gefällt mir nicht so.
bet turn & river oder ck turn & river imo.

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Old Nov 27, 2012, 6:55pm   #3
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Pre finde ich gut
Flop auch gut, würde ich tendenziell eher raisen
Turn, dein Argument ist gut, wenn er den Turn checkt umzu check folden gibt es zwischen pot und half pot keinen unterschied, wenn er allerdings 88 oder weake Tx haende checkt dann macht es einen unterschied und wir bekommen ihn vermutlich mit einer groeßen Turnsize + Riverjam von diesen hands runter

dein play ist sicherlich ok wenn du am Turn nur als ziel hast shared EQ zum folden zu bringen (die aufgibt) und ansonsten River die du nicht hittest behind checkst
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 7:50pm   #4
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und wir bekommen ihn vermutlich mit einer groeßen Turnsize + Riverjam von diesen hands runter
müsste ich turn + river overbetten, da wir bisschen deep sind

würde ich zb for value nie machen, spielst das öfter so? bluff und value dann
ja wahrscheinlich
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 8:39pm   #5
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klar, warum nicht.. willst offensichtlich immer allin mit deinen nuthands.. und dementsprechend baust du dir deine (semi)bluffingrange auf
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 10:10pm   #6
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Spud, was denkst du hat er nach dem Turncheck und welche Range hast du nach dem Peel am Flop?
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 10:32pm   #7
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er: AK-AJ, KQ,KJ,QJs - 99,88, davon x/c er wenn überhaupt 88/99

ist generell sehr tight und dann gegen 2 OOP opened er glaub ich nicht viel mehr

ich: fd's, JTs-78s, JJ-77
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Ok, dann bette alle deine Tx+ hands und die schlechtesten p/(s+p) Hands pro Valuekombo, wobei p der Pot ist und s deine betsize. Damit bist du balanced, also ist er indifferent zwischen callen und folden mit 99.
Wenn du also 10 Valuehands hast und Pot bettest, dann nimm noch deine 5 schlechtesten Hands als Bluff dazu.

Die Strategie wackelt ein bisschen, wenn wir uns nicht ganz sicher sein können, ob er auch mal JT beat hat. Also würde ich in den Grenzen von halben Pot bis Pot etwa meine Size wählen, abhängig davon, wieviel du floatest. Wenn du mehr floatest, hast du mehr Qx, was obv KT schlagen würde. Da willst du größer betten.

Wenn du aber n Read hast, was er mit 99 macht bei verschiedenen Sitzes, dann geht das auf jeden Fall vor. Wenn man jemanden exploiten kann, sollte man das immer dem GTO Play vorziehen, außer, jemand anders kann ich dabei noch exploiten (3 way hands z.b.)
Auch in diesem Fall könnte es gut sein, dass es besser ist 2 Sizes zu haben. Eine for Value, eine als Bluff. Manchen fällt das nicht auf, da ist das dann besser, weil sie es nicht exploiten. Dann würde ich (wie ich es oft in der Praxis mache) etwas größer betten mit Air und meine Valuehands etwa nach Stärke betten (also KQ ziemlich groß, AT recht groß, JT recht klein).
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Old Nov 28, 2012, 5:40pm   #9
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Flop auch gut, würde ich tendenziell eher raisen
Sinn? AJcc is'n raise/jam und QJcc wäre ein raise/fold. Warum mit ner soliden Hand bluffen?
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turn mehr (nuts reppen) oder weniger (77 reppen). mit nut outs willst du eher wie nuts spielen. bet turn ~pot.

river jam as played, WOW, extrem schlechter check back. Deine range hittet die Q, deine range hat fast keine air, seine range ist weak. Das ist ein absolute must-push.
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