Interview: Ari "BodogAri" Engel
Age:23 Hometown: Brooklyn, NY Biggest Win: $46,000 online, $63,000
live Best Known For: Over $1,000,000 in online tournament winnings Ari
"BodogAri" Engel is one of the most feared online multi-table
tournament players. This week, Ari sat down with us and discussed
tournament strategy, as well as what got him into poker in the first
place. online poker 468x60 PokerTips.org: First off, Ari, tell us what
got you into poker and how long you've been playing. Engel: My
roommate in college used to play all the time. For a few months, all I
did was watch him play when I wasn't in class. I did not play at all
[at the time] and finally after much watching, I jumped on the $5 and
$10 sit-'n'-go bandwagon. Over the next nine months, I got my degree,
played a bunch of low-stakes games, and made some, but very little
money. After graduation, I stopped playing online (as I had a large
amount of debt from college, very little cash, and a full-time job). I
continued playing in low-stakes home games and someone testified about
a good online poker site. Ten days after signing up, I had made more
than my yearly salary, so I quit my job. PokerTips.org: Relative to
other top players, was poker something that seemed to come natural to
you? If not, what do you credit with helping you become a top player?
Engel: Kinda, I went from not being able to make money during college
(anything worth living) to killing the game, and I'm not really sure
how it happened. Of course, over time I've tried to improve my game.
PokerTips.org: If poker hadn't worked out for you, what would you
likely be doing right now? Engel: I went to New York University and
got a degree in Management & Organizational Behavior and Finance.
I got a job after college working for a startup company. In college,
my goal was to work on Wall Street with the idea of eventually going
into management consulting. PokerTips.org: You're best known for
multi-table tournaments. Do you ever dabble in cash games or
sit-'n'-gos? If so, for what stakes? Engel: I played $2-$4 no-limit
for a year non-stop. That's where I built a significant portion of my
bankroll. I absolutely killed that game, but it was filled with sports
betters and, in general, very inexperienced players. I don't feel like
I currently have the skills to beat higher stakes cash games, so I
don't try. Regarding sit-'n'-gos, I used to play them quite a bit
after busting from that day's multi-table tournaments. However, I
approached them the same way as multi-table tournaments for a long
time and my results suffered. Combine that with an unfortunate shot at
the higher stakes sit-'n'-gos, and I'm down about $20,000 in them.
Nowadays, I think I have an edge in most sit-'n'-gos, but I still
don't play them too often. The fact that the most one can cash for is
five times the buy-in limits the upside too much for my style of play.
PokerTips.org: In general, how many online tournaments do you play per
week? Engel: Usually about 50-60. This number has varied greatly
during my online career, but now I refuse to play more than four
tables at once, as I believe it severely restricts my game.
PokerTips.org: It's no secret that the variance associated with
multi-table tournaments can be absolutely brutal. How do you deal with
the emotional and financial swings of the game? Engel: I've gone 48
tournaments in a row without cashing in the past. My goal is to try
and embrace the losing nature of tournament poker and use it to my
advantage. Namely, people are too scared of busting out, and like you
mentioned, don't fully grasp the inherent variance in tournament
poker. The best players in the world are not going to win very often
(where a "win" is a first through third finish). Knowing that I won't
win very often helps me both emotionally and strategically. On the
other hand, the constant losing does invariably get me frustrated
sometimes. Thinking about how much I've won in poker, and how I
wouldn't have been able to do it without the losses helps a little.
The bottom line is you have to have self control to do well in this
game. Little mind games can work, but being a "Man" about it is
absolutely necessity. Nobody can always win, so just get used to
losing. PokerTips.org: For our readers unfamiliar with the variance of
MTTs, describe a typical downswing in your game. Engel: I don't focus
on results when referring to a downswing in my game. For whatever
reason, a person's game can go downhill very easily, so I constantly
monitor my game looking for holes. If I lose a lot of money in
tournaments over a short period, I will remove some of the higher
buy-in tournaments that I otherwise would play, and insert a lower
buy-in (weaker skilled opposition) in its place. Furthermore, I do not
play poker unless I absolutely want to. It is so easy to go into
"zombie" mode and just keep registering for tournaments, even when you
are clearly not playing well. Taking breaks (whether 15 minutes, 15
hours or 15 days; it's a personal decision) is a must. I can credit
breaks for saving tens of thousands of dollars. PokerTips.org: What
role do you anticipate playing in this year's WSOP? Engel: Well, I had
anticipated playing tons, but it's about half way through and I've
only played two events (no results). So we shall see, but I do plan on
playing more. A bracelet would obviously be sweet. PokerTips.org: What
do you enjoy doing away from the tables? Engel: Of course, I go on
vacations, work half-schedule, etc, but my normal day involves very
little time away from poker. PokerTips.org: Describe some of the
weaknesses in your poker game. Engel: There are way too many to list
here. Poker is all about balance, and that's something I'm working on.
PokerTips.org: What sounds more preferable to you between having an
enormous bankroll and being almost entirely unknown or having a
somewhat meager bankroll but being a well known "pro" with a several
TV appearances? Engel: I'd prefer anonymity and cash. I like the idea
of a being well-known "pro" because of the potential for endorsements,
but I have no interest in being recognized when I go for a slice of
pizza. PokerTips.org: Do you have any goals for yourself in the poker
world? Engel: Yes, to try to play my "A game" at least 80% of the
time. PokerTips.org: Finally, what are some typical mistakes that keep
mediocre tournament players from being at the top level? Engel: Not
enough out-of-the-box thinking. Creativity is a hugely undervalued
aspect of tournament success.